Now for my friend Bill..
"THE SECOND LAW DOESN'T APPLY TO EVOLUTION BECAUSE OF THE SUN"
You may have heard of John Gribbin.. well known science writer.. and friend of atheists. He wrote a book called "Blinded by the Light" subtitled "The Secret Life of the Sun" 1991.. It is an interesting read and he is a very articulate writer who captures the excitement of science at it best.. But in the inside cover we have this..
"Our ancestors worshiped the sun, rightly recognizing it as the bringer of life."
So the atheist commends ignorant pagan religious worship of the sun!! The mere suggestion by a modern secular 'scientist' beggars belief! In context of very basis of the atheist position I think this is actually revealing of where they are likely to end up.. the dark ages.
Since he introduces 'worship' to the story.. Lets just compare what the bible says about the matter..
1- The sun is a created object.. (ordered state of matter consistent with a creator)
2- It warns not to worship any created object.. (more reasonable to worship the sun's creator)
3- Created objects cannot hear you, will never respond to you and cannot do good or evil.. (the creator of the sun by definition can do all three)
Which I find more consistent and satisfying than Gribbin's distorted thinking! So to come back to the real question in hand..
Yes the sun's energy powers just about everything on the earth.. Yes the energy flow just like a gushing flood can and will result in local pockets of order or decreased entropy. Every such occurrence will be accompanied by a bigger increase in the surroundings. No problem so far. A flood might create a great heap of sand and debris or put a boat on top of a high roof. The suns energy powers tornadoes and evaporation of water all temporary states of order. Remember any state not in equilibrium of both momentum and position of all its atoms uniformly and randomly distributed is low entropy. It is the definition of 'surroundings' that is critical to the calculation.
It is easy to see that the local order created by a flood like putting a boat on top of a high building (entropy drop), is vastly over accounted for by the increase in disorder (entropy increase) in damage to the rest of the town. It is therefore a question of entropy accounting to verify if a process can pay the entropy cost of a particular ordered state. You may say well the suns energy flux is so massive as to account for any process on earth you care to imagine. Wrong..
To put a boat on top of Mt Everest is easily within the energy budget of the sun - earth system.. but the storm to do it is just not going to happen anytime soon. The price in entropy terms is too high! For the same reason the oceans of the world will never make a sand castle.. such as a child could make.. well inside the energy budget.. but way outside the entropy budget. Meaning the sun - earth system will virtually never accomplish such a task and the fundamental reason is the state of matter of the sandcastle is too improbable. Note these states of low entropy (order) are where the position of a group of atoms is not randomly distributed.
I hoped even atheists could get that.. but alas they don't..
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